WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
37%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Irish Hammer 11:12 Tue Nov 22
Carragher comments last night re: Rooney
I make him right on the money.

Players play football, get loads of money, but it's still just a job. They aren't allowed to have a life. Todays social media etc makes it impossible.

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tnb 6:11 Sat Nov 26
Re: Carragher comments last night re: Rooney
Cheers Sven. I had it at the back of my mind somewhere.

Sven Roeder 5:48 Sat Nov 26
Re: Carragher comments last night re: Rooney
Lucas Neill broke Carraghers leg while he was playing against Liverpool for Blackburn

Carraghers mates rang him to tell him they had seen Neill at a shopping centre but he was with David Thompson who Carragher knew so he told them to hold off for now.
Another Scouser at Blackburn managed to convince Carragher to CALM DOWN.

tnb 5:07 Sat Nov 26
Re: Carragher comments last night re: Rooney
Monto, Franks,

Wasn't it Lucas Neill who Carragher threatened to get his mates to 'sort out'? A cunt indeed.

Sniper 7:36 Wed Nov 23
Re: Carragher comments last night re: Rooney
Think shearer nailed this on motd

If Southgate said 'take the night off and enjoy yourself' he did nothing wrong

If Southgate said 'have a day off and get an early night' 5"then he's reached that demand

And, of course, if mourinho has him in a strict no booze plan then he was out of order too.

But if the second and third option aren't true then just leave him alone.this sort of shit doesn't happen any more now than it always has done it's just fucking social media means nothing remains private

franksfat&slow&wank 2:57 Wed Nov 23
Re: Carragher comments last night re: Rooney
yeah heard the same monto

our Liverpool office said he's tough horrible cunt and not one to fuck with

monto 12:56 Wed Nov 23
Re: Carragher comments last night re: Rooney
Cross Carragher and he'll send the boys round.

Biggest wanker of them all.

master 11:56 Wed Nov 23
Re: Carragher comments last night re: Rooney
Murray doesn't drink because he knows what it takes to be a proper athlete. Most footballers, despite the money and the myth, are not proper athletes. They're just very fit lads who can (mostly) kick a ball. They're on their arses playing extra time most occasions. Tennis players can play for 3 to 5 hours sometimes, and short sharp busts at that, much harder than medium to long sprints.

Far Cough 11:50 Wed Nov 23
Re: Carragher comments last night re: Rooney
If I was him, I would go on a 5 set drinking binge, he's deserved it

Sven Roeder 11:47 Wed Nov 23
Re: Carragher comments last night re: Rooney
That may well be true.
He has earned a drink though

ornchurch ammer 11:42 Wed Nov 23
Re: Carragher comments last night re: Rooney
Murray is going on a stag do. How do you know he is going to drink? He might be tee-total.

Sven Roeder 9:36 Wed Nov 23
Re: Carragher comments last night re: Rooney
I heard Andy Murray is going on his fathers stag do this weekend.
He has just reached no1 in the world and won 24 matches in a row.
Flintoff had just helped win the Ashes after 16 years
Wiggins had won an Olympic Gold Medal

If Rooney had captained England to winning the Euros he could have drunk his own body weight and no one would bat an eyelid.
He missed the Spain game & couldn't even get in the team for a major club game the following Saturday.

Russ of the BML 9:24 Wed Nov 23
Re: Carragher comments last night re: Rooney
tnb 9:24 Tue Nov 22

To be fair, if England won the World Cup I think Rooney getting smashed would also get congratulated.

And that's just it isn't it? No one minds a few beers to congratulate a win. The question here is what has Rooney won for England? Bugger all. And is playing pretty poorly at the moment.

Sam with Flintoff. We won the Ashes in spectacular style. He got bladdered and get congratulated for it. But he'd won the Ashes.

stomper 4:34 Wed Nov 23
Re: Carragher comments last night re: Rooney
Trevor B 11:40 Tue Nov 22
Rather more than 1/2 cut from what I've read.

icwhs 4:21 Wed Nov 23
Re: Carragher comments last night re: Rooney
Rooney having a beer at the team hotel bar, having a beer, and he's not playing the next game?

Non story

Next question

Mike Oxsaw 4:00 Wed Nov 23
Re: Carragher comments last night re: Rooney
One of the aspects of alcohol though is that it's a very strong social indicator (as well as being fucking addictive).

OK, you can get drunk and have fun/stay in (reasonable) control and/or get smashed out of your skull.

One of it's draws, though, is that it's widely seen as a "grown up's drink", and by that I mean that society has deemed that you have to be over the age of 18 before you get it's approval to drink it.

For teenagers, that's a massive pull. For a multitude of reasons, teenagers want to be seen as "grown up" or "mature".

What better sign (in their minds) than acting in a manner by which society judges you as grown up. How many on here had their first pint before they were 18? Why? How many more tried to get into a pub at 17, 16, 15 or even younger? You da lad!!!

Some people then never mature beyond that. Being pissed even at Rooney's age is still probably his mind screaming out for society to treat him as a proper adult, but he makes his money doing something deeply rooted in his childhood, so what mind he has is probably being pulled every which way.

He "should" be "responsible" (according to the society that judges him as adult by how much drink he can hold) at his age, but, not like more than a few older than him who try and start a bit of "good old 80s aggro" at games, his mind won't accept he is no longer a spring chicken.

, 10:16 Tue Nov 22
Re: Carragher comments last night re: Rooney
I know two ex pros from an earlier era. They are both more or less tea total. They always looked after themselves physically and a football career of near abstinence turned into a lifetime habit.

If you are a sportsman at the top of your game there is no problem with taking a break and having some enjoyment and it can be done with little or no alcohol. When you are at the top of your sport though and it's during your season you cannot take liberties and expect still to perform at your consistent best. Rooney has realised, some time after most of us, that his career at the top is more than on the wayne so he lapsed and someone put it out in cyberspace.

I don't think he'll be in our WC Russia 2018 squad if we qualify.

tnb 10:05 Tue Nov 22
Re: Carragher comments last night re: Rooney
Comma,

I was there that day in 2005 in Trafalgar Square and I loved Flintoff then and I still do.

franksfat&slow&wank 10:04 Tue Nov 22
Re: Carragher comments last night re: Rooney
The brunet in the paper isn't a barmaid it's my mates mrs

He sent those pics to 12 of us in a whattapp group, he asked us all not to sell to papers as said it didn't sit well with him. Problem was one of Scottish pals sent them onto 2 workmates so fuck knows where they ended up

True story but a boring one

franksfat&slow&wank 10:01 Tue Nov 22
Re: Carragher comments last night re: Rooney
Russ I personally haven't but I bet people do

Far Cough 9:56 Tue Nov 22
Re: Carragher comments last night re: Rooney
Greaves probably wouldn't have scored all the goals he did if he wasn't still pissed up

, 9:54 Tue Nov 22
Re: Carragher comments last night re: Rooney
The epitome of a well pissed English sporting hero has got to be as demonstrated Freddie Flintoff enjoying our adulation from an ope topped bus.

Rooney is a lightweight by comparison.

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